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JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE
WITH SECRETARY OF STATE MADELEINE ALBRIGHT AND
PRIME MINISTER BENYAMIN NETANYAHU
Prime Minister's Office, Jerusalem
September 10, 1997
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Ladies and gentlemen, it is a great pleasure and honor to
welcome Secretary Albright on her first visit to Israel as a Secretary of State. Secretary Albright
is a distinguished world leader, and she represents the abiding kinship between our two peoples
and our two countries. It is a bond of deeply shared values of freedom, of democracy and of
friendship. This is also the first visit of Madeleine Albright as Secretary of State here and there
are so many issues that we need to talk about, but we devoted our time to the most pressing
discussion vis-a-vis the Palestinian-Israeli talks. I think that our meeting was truly most cordial
and most productive, and Madeleine, we were deeply moved today by your words this morning.
I'm sure they touched the hearts of all Israelis -- they certainly touched mine -- and they showed
real empathy with our history, and, I think, a real understanding of our concerns and our desire
and our hopes.
I want to emphasize again that we want the peace process to succeed. In fact, I'm convinced
that my government is the only government which can bring this process to a successful
conclusion. This government is determined to achieve peace -- real peace, peace with security.
A peace that will last. A peace that will benefit all the peoples of our region. But obviously,
no agreement can work unless both sides live up to their obligations.
The central, and I say the essential, premise of this agreement that was signed by Israel and the
Palestinians exactly four years ago was based on a Palestinian commitment to wage an
unrelenting war against terrorism. Unfortunately, in the four years that have passed, the
Palestinian Authority has done virtually nothing to keep up this central commitment and as a
result terrorism grew. It grew by leaps and bounds in the first three years under my
predecessors, the late Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. It continues to grow in the absence of
firm Palestinian Authority action against terrorism. We must make it clear to everyone who
wants to see peace prevail that terrorism must not be used as an instrument of negotiations and
violence is not an option in such negotiations. This is unacceptable. I know it is unacceptable
to us and to the United States and it should be unacceptable to every peace-loving government
in the world. The only sane way to fight terrorism is to do what was explicitly undertaken by
the Palestinian Authority, and was articulated so well by Secretary Albright, that is fighting the
terrorists and dismantling their infrastructure. These are the critical components of security in
waging war on terrorism. All this is not an item for bargaining. It is not an option. It is as
Secretary Albright has put it, "a sine qua non of the Oslo agreements."
We believe the Palestinian Authority must keep its part. It must fight terrorism with no "ifs"
and "buts" and it must do so soon if this process is to survive. It must, in short, decide if it
wants peace with Hamas or peace with Israel, but it cannot have both.
I want to assure you, Madame Secretary, that we will do everything to make your visit
successful because your success is the success of the entire peace process, which we so fervently
desire. If you are able to persuade the Palestinian Authority to wage war against the terrorists,
I believe the road will be open to the continuation of the peace process to bring it to a successful
conclusion. And I am convinced we can achieve peace. I hope the Palestinian Authority, our
Palestinian partners, also desire this peace with the same fervor. And I hope they will prove it
soon by fighting terrorism. We can achieve a good life for both our peoples in this small land.
And if peace is to win, both sides would want it to win. We certainly do.
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Thank you very much. Mr. Prime Minister, it is a great pleasure
to be here with you, and I very much appreciate your characterization of our discussions. I do
believe that we had very good discussions and reviewed a variety of issues relating to the pursuit
of Israeli-Arab peace. Israel and the United States have long been partners in that historic
endeavor and it is important that the partnership continue. Clearly, we are at a very difficult
moment with negotiations stalled, and Israel and the Palestinians are locked in a crisis of
confidence which has threatened the historic gains achieved in recent years. If we are to move
forward, Israelis and Palestinians need to restore the partnership and the reciprocity that
produced those achievements. The terrorist war being waged against Israel and peace itself has
created a severe challenge.
This security is at the center of my agenda. Let me be clear. The enemies of peace are
purposely and relentlessly attacking Israelis, so the war against terror being waged by those who
support the path of peace must also be purposeful and relentless. There is no way to completely
protect any society from the threat of terror, but partners in pursuit of peace have a right to
expect a total, sustained and comprehensive effort to preempt terror, to combat it, and to
delegitimize those in their midsts who associate themselves with it. There can be no room in
this process for those groups who would tolerate or advocate terror and violence. I will be
seeing Chairman Arafat tomorrow and my message will be clear: it is essential that Israeli-
Palestinian security cooperation be serious, sustained and effective. At the same time, the
Palestinian Authority must take unilateral steps and actions to root out the terrorist infrastructure.
If we are to create and sustain an invigorated and accelerated negotiating process, there is simply
no other way.
The Prime Minister has talked of the importance of reciprocity and he is right. Both Israelis and
Palestinians must shoulder their responsibilities if we are to emerge from the current crisis. This
process cannot succeed without reciprocity. But let me be clear. There is no moral equivalence
between killing people and building houses. It is simply not possible to address political issues
seriously in a climate of intimidation and terror. At the same time, real security depends
ultimately on real peace. Achieving this peace turns fundamentally on a political process which
meets, through a genuine process of give and take, the needs of both sides. Clearly, Israel also
has a responsibility to shape an environment which will give that process a chance to succeed.
This means that Israel should be taking steps that build confidence and should refrain from
actions that undermine confidence and trust. As I said in my speech last month, it is very
difficult to create a serious environment for negotiations when unilateral actions are taken that
pre-judge or pre-empt issues reserved for permanent status negotiations. Restoring a sense of
partnership will not be accomplished quickly or easily, certainly not on a single visit. At the
same time, I firmly believe that there's no alternative to the political pathway Israelis and
Palestinians have chosen. The people of this region have seen too much violence. There have
been too many victims. They do not deserve and will not accept a future that promises only
more of the same. The United States will do all it can to help the parties rediscover the path for
a brighter future with real security and real peace. The President of the United States and I are
committed to that. And in that effort, as in our deep and abiding friendship with the people of
Israel, the United States may be counted upon to persevere.
Thank you very much.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, did you bring with you any concrete plans for renewing the
negotiations and the peace process between Israelis and the Palestinians, and does this plan, if
it exists, include freezing or halting of the building of the settlements, especially Har Homa?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I came here, on this, my first visit, with the hope that I will be able
to do what I can to restore confidence. As I have said many times, we see a crisis of confidence
here and the bonds need to be rebuilt before the process can go forward. I have also said that
while it is very evident that the United States is a key player within the Middle East peace
process, and our bonds and our interests here are very strong, it is the leaders of this country,
and of the Palestinians, that have to make the hard decisions and to live up to the expectations
of the people of this region who want peace.
QUESTION: Mr. Prime Minister, on the reciprocity, or maybe it should be called even-
handedness, are you being asked now to implement a further withdrawal and do you think it is
safe for Israel, experiencing all this terrorism, to keep pulling back on the West Bank, like now?
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Well, I think that the Secretary had it right, and indeed
President Clinton as well, when he and she put the primacy of security, indispensability and
security, in order to move the process forward. I think that we are interested in moving that
process forward, but we also understand the crucial importance of stopping the bombs from
exploding. We can talk, and you can ask me more questions of this nature, and they'll be
largely irrelevant if we don't stop terrorism. So we concentrated much of our discussion on this
issue and I think that it's best to focus on this at this time. I think that the Secretary's statement,
that it is up to myself and to Mr. Arafat and our colleagues to make those kinds of decisions,
is exactly right.
QUESTION: Mrs. Albright, James Rubin, the spokesman of the State Department said today
that the nice words that you said this morning at the President's house were the first words, and
then you are going to be tough on Netanyahu. Does that mean pressure of the Government of
the United States on Israel?
And if you permit a question in Hebrew for the Prime Minister of Israel: (in Hebrew*) Mr.
Prime Minister, the President of Israel says that Israel does not need to exert economic pressure
on the Palestinians. It's dangerous when you have hungry neighbors. Unfortunately, he said this
morning, as James Rubin, State Department spokesman, relayed to American journalists,
unfortunately, Netanyahu is patronizing Arafat, peers at him from above, and he should not be
treated like that.
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I'm not sure it's always fair to put words in the mouth of the
spokesman, but I think that what I would like to say is that I have come here because of the
great priority that the President and I put on the Middle East peace process and on the ever
strong relationship that the United States has with the people of Israel and Israel itself, and I
have come as a realist. I have made quite clear before I got here that my value in this process
is to be realistic and to do what I can, on behalf of the United States, to help rebuild the
confidence and to try to clarify some of the issues. It is not an issue of putting pressure on
anybody. It is a matter of being realistic about what we would like to see, getting back on track
the Middle East peace process, which is not only crucial to all of you who live here, but to us
in the United States also.
INTEREPRETER: To the Prime Minister the following: the Israeli President said this morning
that it would be wrong on the part of Israel to exert pressure on the Palestinians, that it would
be particularly risky to hungry citizens in the Palestinian Authority. James Rubin, the American
spokesman of the White House (sic), said that Netanyahu is patronizing Arafat, not relating to
him as his equal, quoting actually the President of the States actually saying these words (sic).
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Well, I'm not going to comment on the remarks attributed
to the President. He has not given me a response, or rather a full detailed account of his
conversations with the Secretary, so I'm not going to comment on it. I will say -- I'm supposed
to say this in Hebrew. Yes, of course, I just translated (laughter), now the reverse translation.
(in Hebrew*) I'm not going to comment on things attributed to the President because the
President has not yet been able to report to me completely and wholly on his conversations. In
general, I can say that our approach is surely to avoid starving anyone. We take the opposite
way. Our concern is not only that there be no hungry Palestinians but also that there be no dead
Israelis.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, in your call for mutual responsibility and reciprocity, you are
being very specific in what you're asking Yasser Arafat to do. You're asking him to crack down
on terrorism. You're not being nearly as specific in your words as to what you would like the
Israelis to do. If and when Chairman Arafat cracks down on terrorism the way you and Prime
Minister Netanyahu would like him to do, are you then calling on the Netanyahu government
to impose any sort of settlement freeze to carry through with the withdrawals, as stipulated in
Oslo, to do these things as part of getting the accelerated final status talks going which you and
Prime Minister Netanyahu both support?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Let me say and just repeat that obviously dealing with the problem
of terrorism is the sine qua non of moving forward. But what I have said both here and in my
previous speeches and remarks is that we believe it is very important to live up to the various
aspects of the Oslo process, and we believe that there are mutual responsibilities within that
process. We would hope that they would be carried out not only according to the letter but also
to the spirit of the Oslo process, and we believe that it is important, because, I think, if I might
take a minute longer on this, is because the interim agreements themselves, which were supposed
to help create bonds of confidence, have not had that effect. We have suggested having an
accelerated final status discussion so that the people who live here could actually see something
coming from the peace process. But we also believe that it's important not to abandon the
interim agreements in the Oslo process, and therefore the suggestion that I have made is that the
interim agreement carried out in mutually responsible ways be married to an accelerated final
status process.
QUESTION: You said what you're going to say tomorrow to Mr. Arafat. Can you please
reveal some of what you said to Prime Minister Netanyahu? This is the first question. Second
question: do you accept Arafat's claims that those terrorists, who made both terrorist attacks in
Jerusalem, came from abroad and that actually Israel is responsible for what happened because
Israel is responsible for the borders of Israel, and this is why it's her fault?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: First of all, let me say that the Prime Minister and I have already
in my statement explained what it is that we talked about and the importance of dealing with the
terror and our understanding of Israel's need to deal with the issue of terrorism. But at the same
time, we did speak about the importance of the Oslo process and generally moving the process
forward. I believe that it is very important for Chairman Arafat to be realistic about dealing
with the infrastructure of the terrorist organizations and not to try to deal in ways that obfuscate
rather than deal specifically with what is the problem here -- which is the infrastructure that
exists of the terrorist organizations -- and that he has to deal with that very clearly.
QUESTION: Prime Minister, and also the Secretary, last evening, and overnight, the
Palestinian Authority arrested about 200 people in the Gaza Strip and apparently interrogated
them, and are still holding between 50 and 100 people. Do you consider this as serious effort,
or part of a serious effort, to do what you're asking them to do? Or do you see it cynically as
some sort of strange gift for Mrs. Albright's visit?
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: Well, I've commented on this before as this process was
taking place. Unfortunately, much of this is intended for show. It is not a substantive and
sweeping effort against Palestinian -- Hamas terrorism and Islamic Jihad terrorism -- that is
required. As you know, we have on-going alerts for terrorism, additional attacks. And unless
such concerted effort is taken to catch not the sardines, but the sharks, the sharks who organize,
who direct, who dispatch the terrorists we will have more terrorist attacks. That has not
happened by any stretch of the imagination. I would also say that in the absence of this
happening, you cannot really fight terrorism. To give you an illustration: after the first
bombing we had in Jerusalem, the Mahane Yehuda bombing a few weeks ago, we did our effort
in the areas controlled by us and as a result we discovered additional terrorist cells and additional
plans of terrorists directed from Palestinian controlled areas to launch more attacks. Those
attacks we neutralized, largely neutralized because we put people in jail. One interrogation led
to another. The fact that we were in control in these areas, we were able to stop terrorism that
was planned in the Palestinian controlled areas. But that effort is not in the Palestinian territory
which has now become a collection of bases and safe heavens for the Hamas and Islamic Jihad
terrorist organizations. Before we are asked to give additional territory, we have a right to
demand the implementation of that commitment in the existing areas controlled by the Palestinian
Authority. And as long as the Palestinian Authority doesn't undertake this vigorous effort to
fight terrorism and dismantle their infrastructure, we are not going to go very far. It's going
to be impossible to continue the process. I hope they have a change of heart. I hope they have
a real policy decision to fight terrorism. I can tell you that so far, as we speak, that has not
happened. We want to see a real change, demonstrated over time, because I think it's in our
interest, and frankly, I think it's in the Palestinians' interest as well. Terrorism is destructive
for both of us, and for peace.
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I believe that it is very important for us to see concrete and
sustained action, not a revolving door in terms of people who are arrested and then released.
And, as I said previously, for Chairman Arafat to go after the infrastructure of the terrorist
organizations. And the only gifts I want are concrete actions.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary of State, do you agree with the Israeli Cabinet decision to
freeze any further pull-back from the West Bank until the Palestinians will fulfill all their
obligations? And may I add, could you promise us that very soon, maybe within two years, the
American Embassy will be removed from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem as Congress decided?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Let me say that I think, again, I'm supportive of the Israeli
Government's and Prime Minister Netanyahu's specifically calling for firm action against the
terrorists, as I have now repeated many times, and will continue to do so. It is essential that
terrorist activities be dealt with at their base. At the same time, I do believe it is very important
to follow through on the obligations of Oslo, and to make sure that we do everything the Israeli
Government also along with us, and with the Palestinians to re-build a web of confidence. I
think that is essential. The question on Jerusalem is a final status issue, and that is why we
believe it is important to begin to move in that direction.
QUESTION: Based on what we've heard today, there hasn't been any new agreements, or new
movement in the peace process other than both of you have talked about the need to fight terror.
Are there any possibilities, Mr. Prime Minister, that you might release some of the money
withheld from Palestinian Authority tax revenue? Is there any possibility of the resumption of
the security talks? Is there any possibility that you might resume negotiations on opening
Palestinian air and sea ports in line with what Secretary Albright is saying that you have to have
peace in order to have security?
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: I have to say that we enforce closure policy only to
prevent the terrorists from reaching our cities, reaching our market places, reaching our schools.
In the absence of security cooperation, we have less intelligence, and because we have less
intelligence, you have to somehow, create a protective wall to prevent the terrorists from coming
in. And that is the purpose of the closure which we relax periodically as the security situation
improves. As far as the money, we have no intention to starve anyone, on the contrary, we
released those monies that we could. We didn't really see the kind of activity that we wanted,
but I wanted to communicate good faith, so I released a third of the funds that we withheld
because the other side of the agreements weren't being kept as well. Unfortunately, about a
week or so later, the response I got was an embrace, a kiss that Arafat gave to the leaders of
Hamas. You know, you say, "one good deed deserves another," we deserve something else.
And I think we all do. And we want to see a change of policy vis-a-vis terrorism, I can assure
you, that that will prompt an immediate change from our point of view, as to the measures that
we apply. And it would also be possible to relax many of the security measures that we apply.
Well, I want to say Madeleine, that this can be an ongoing event into the night, they are
insatiable in their demands of questions they want to ask. But I also want to say that I think that
the most difficult part of your visit has been achieved successfully. You have withstood the
Israeli press with flying colors, so this augurs well for the continuation of your mission. And
we wish you, we wish all of us much success. Thank you very much.
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