SECRETARY ALBRIGHT INTERVIEW WITH MBC IN EGYPT
September 13, 1997
(U.S. eyes acceleration of interim, final status talks)
Alexandria, Egypt -- U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright explained in a television
interview September 12 that the United States view is that both the interim and the final status
negotiations should be "accelerated and that there be a better way for the crisis of confidence
(between Palestinian and Israeli leaders) to be overcome."
Speaking with the Arabic-language television network, MBC of London, the American secretary
of state confirmed that she did discuss with Egyptian and Syrian officials the spread of "ballistic
missiles" in the region.
She said this was an issue of "major concern" to the United States as well as to other unidentified
countries in the Middle East because of its "destabilizing" nature. She said the discussions
centered on ways to limit the spread of these weapons but offered no details.
Following is the transcript of the interview:
(Begin transcript)
INTERVIEWER: Secretary Albright, I would like to thank you for letting us have this interview
here.
ALBRIGHT: I'm very glad to be able to be here.
QUESTION: Have you discussed with the Syrian and Egyptian officials the ballistic missiles
spread in the Middle East?
ALBRIGHT: Well, we have all been very concerned about the spread of weapons of mass
destruction in the Middle East. This is a major concern to the United States. It is obviously a
concern to the countries in the region and is very destabilizing, so it is a subject that we have
discussed.
QUESTION: So you have discussed it?
ALBRIGHT: Yes.
QUESTION: So what is the outcome?
ALBRIGHT: Well, I think it's mostly that we will be talking about how to have some way of
limiting it because I think it is a mutual concern.
QUESTION: But officials here and in Syria say this is a double standard again from the United
States. Do you agree?
ALBRIGHT: No, I don't think it is a double standard. I think the United States believes that the
spread of weapons of mass destruction is something that needs to be controlled throughout the
world.
QUESTION: So why don't you talk about this with the Israelis?
ALBRIGHT: Well, I think the issue here is that it is important generally to work on limiting the
weapons of mass destruction.
QUESTION: Back to the Middle East process, do you agree with the French Foreign Minister
who said that the Netanyahu government is responsible for the collapse of the peace process?
ALBRIGHT: I think that there are a number of reasons that at the moment there is a crisis in
confidence and they include the fact that the leaders on both sides are not making the hard
decisions that are necessary in order to get the peace process moving again. What I have found
in my travels is that the public, the Israeli and the Palestinian people want the peace process to
continue. It's complicated and it can only continue if there is trust and the interim agreement as it
was set up was supposed to establish bonds that would allow the final status issues to be dealt
with. We think that those bonds have not been developed and, therefore, the U.S. is suggesting
that the interim agreement and the final status be accelerated and that there be a better way for
the crisis of confidence to be overcome.
QUESTION: Secretary Albright, we would like to have something clear because the Israelis say
that you asked them to stop the provocative enlargement of settlements. Is that right?
ALBRIGHT: What I said in the speech that I gave, was that the Palestinians see the settlements
as provocative and that I called for a time out on unilateral acts that either side saw as
undercutting an environment that would allow the peace process to go forward. That means that
there should be an end to the war of words. There needs to be greater action by Chairman Arafat
in controlling terrorism and there needs to be an end to unilateral acts that preempt the final
status issues.
QUESTION: This includes settlements?
ALBRIGHT: I said we have said that the United States Government's position has been that the
settlements have not been helpful as far as moving the peace process forward.
QUESTION: But are you ready to put pressure on Israel about this?
ALBRIGHT: I have made that statement and I have made very clear what the views of the
United States were. But I have also made very clear that it is very hard for any people to
negotiate in an environment of terror, and the main enemies of peace are the terrorists, the
bombers, the mad bombers, the suicide bombers who destroy the opportunities for peace which
the people of the region want very badly. The truth is that the peace process itself is strong and
the bombers cannot destroy it, but they do create disruptions and it is, therefore, important for the
leaders to make the decisions so that the people of the region who are fine people who want to
live together, who want to sort out a way can, in fact, move to a normal life.
QUESTION: How do you think the Syrian track could get back on track, could move forward?
ALBRIGHT: Well, I think it requires again a different approach as to how to restart the talks by
the Syrians and by the Israelis. I think that it would be good to see what we can do to get it back
on track. Again, this is not an easy issue, and I tell the truth and I think that it is hard. We need
some big decisions to be made and so far all we can get are some small steps.
QUESTION: The Israelis refuse to withdraw from the Golan Heights as a principle.
ALBRIGHT: Well, they acquired it and they consider it important for their security, but it is
important to have talks about how to deal with the issue of the Golan Heights. That is what we
are trying to do, is to make them go back, both sides to make up, to avoid the differences they
have in approach and try to get down to talking about this very important issue.
QUESTION: Some Israeli ministers have proposed that Israel should withdraw from South
Lebanon. Do you agree with this? Do you think this is important for Middle East peace?
ALBRIGHT: Well, I think that it is important for stability for there to be some way to avoid the
kind of fighting that has been going on in South Lebanon now and for the monitoring group there
to be able to be more effective so that the level of interchange now, of exchanges that are causing
deaths, that should end. That's what I think is important.
QUESTION: Do you think that the Lebanese government should take some steps?
ALBRIGHT: I think that there needs to be every attempt to control the activities of those groups
within southern Lebanon that shoot katayusha rockets into Israel and that create disruption.
INTERVIEWER: Thank you very much.
ALBRIGHT: Thank you, very much.
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